From Chicago Tribune:
"We will cut him into little pieces," said Hosnia Wafayosofi, who works at the jail, as she made a cutting motion with her hands. "There's no need to see him…"
…"He is my son," said (Abdul Manan, Rahman's father), crying. "But if a son does not care about the dignity of his family, the dignity of his father, God can take him away. You cannot make anything out of such a son. He is useless."
With that kind of father, who needs enemies? So now the dignity of a father is linked to the religious beliefs of his son. Oh, yeah, that is liberty of thought.
Prosecutor Abdul Wasi said Rahman had been told repeatedly to repent and come back to Islam, but Rahman refused. Wasi called Rahman a traitor.
"He is known as a microbe in society, and he should be cut off and removed from the rest of Muslim society and should be killed," Wasi told the court.
A microbe? You mean: being a Christian is bad for society? Wow, now I discover that I am, for some Muslims, just a microbe to be cut off. A traitor? Hmm, this is the same thing Romans said about Christians, because they did not want to convert to the Pagan religion and to adore the Emperor. Now it seems to me, you have to adore the ulemas and the imams, glup, no, Allah and Mohammed. My goodness. I just keep on asking: WHY Shari'a was introduced in the Afghan constitution as The Rule? This consideration alone in my view discredites Afghan democracy. If the Constitution does not defend the rights and freedoms of your citizens, then that country could not be named a real democracy, even if it is formally one -just as most of the Communist regimes who called themselves "democratic"-
"If he doesn't regret his conversion, the punishment will be enforced on him," the judge said. "And the punishment is death."
The ones who are going to regret his death are going to be his daughters, whose destiny is more than awful in such a family.
HT: Reverse Vampyr.
From Jerusalem Post:
Senior Muslim clerics said Thursday that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity should be killed regardless of whether a court decides to free him. … …four senior clerics interviewed by The Associated Press in their mosques in Kabul said Rahman deserved to be killed for his conversion.
"Whether a court decides to free him". Marvellous, hein? That obedience to the Rule of the Courts and to what they decide is alarming.
"He is not crazy. He went in front of the media and confessed to being a Christian," said Hamidullah, chief cleric at Haji Yacob Mosque.
"The government is scared of the international community. But the people will kill him if he is freed."
"He is not mad. The government is playing games. The people will not be fooled," said Abdul Raoulf, cleric at Herati Mosque. "This is humiliating for Islam (what? to convert to another religion is humiliating for the prior one? No, HUMILIATING for ISLAM is to condemn to death a good and brave man for the pernicious "crime" of changing his religion). … Cut off his head."
Raoulf is considered a moderate cleric in Afghanistan. He was jailed three times for criticizing the Taliban’s policies before the hard-line regime was ousted by US-led forces in 2001.
"He went in front of the media and CONFESSED to being a Christian". Wow, what a sin, what a bad person this man is, what a CRIME…. And this man is moderate? Well, perhaps if compared with Talibans. But that is as saying: he defends democracy, much more than Hitler or Stalin. I mean, those are NO good examples to be compared with.
And, as a result, I am astonished: how on earth they are giving these fools permission to build "islamcities" in the West? How on earth this "tolerant and peaceful" law is even named here? This contradicts everything our societies have fought for so long. And yet, Muslims have been so eager to demand "respect" to the West because of the Mohammed cartoons, but now (except CAIR, for once) they are doing nothing. That is their concept for humanitarian aide and tolerant society.
Oh, and for what I knew Spanish "intelectuals" have said nothing about this case. Of course, this is a foolish man converted into Christianity, urgggh. How on earth someone can do that, when Islam is so moderate, peaceful, etc?
NOTE: I think Andrew Sullivan is right when he says:
I know there are moderate Muslims. I know that in Malaysia, Turkey, Indonesia and India, for example, these kinds of views are not common. I also know that it wasn't that long ago that Christians held similar views about heretics or Jews, and that today's fundamentalist Christianity is often supportive of the death penalty and torture. But that a religious faith contains this kind of fanatical intolerance and violence anywhere is disturbing. It's barbaric. And it is in the Middle East that this kind of theocratic fascism is ascendant.
Anywhere, yes that is the real important word. All frontiers of Islam are producing conflicts.
But note also that when you speak about moderation is THE MUSLIMS -that is the people- who in some cases, are tolerant. BUT rarely is called Islam as Moderate. The Koram, from a political point of biew, has no moderation. Yes, Christianity has had a lot of defects, but if you go to the Gospels, those very fundamentalistic interpretations were at least very unrelated with the spiritual message. We have to note that, Christianity -in all its forms- has a pricnipal commandment: the love to others -even enemies-. The Koram says that one of the duties of a good Muslim is Jihad, which in his "minor" class, consists in the conquest of all the territories and the conversion of all the people to Islam -whether by force or by preaching-. The ones who are not converted have to choose: or death or jizya -alternative only available to "People of the Book"-, which does not mean that the vexations were not going to be daily, even if you pay it.
So, the question is: are Muslims in the West going to fulfil the Koram within the limits of Western Constitutions? The answer is: if the paleolithic let the "moderates" they will. If not, the war, so silenced and hidden by MSM for so long, will explode in not a very far future. BUT we have to underline it: the battle for freedoms against the excess of the Koram began a lot of time ago. These are only the results of not having exerced the right actions in the right time, by letting the extremists understand in a very clear way, that nothing was going to change in the West, no matter what Mohammed said he was revealed 1.400 years ago.
The case of an Afghan man facing a possible death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity is “appalling,'' Australian Prime Minister John Howard said.
“We're putting the lives of Australian soldiers on the line and this sort of thing is allowed,'' Howard told Melbourne radio station 3AW today. “When I saw the report about this I felt sick.''
Just like I felt. There are also Spanish soliders in Afghanistan. By the way, the Spanish Governement has not said anything yet, for what I know.
And this is how Reuters writes about this case:
ROME (Reuters) – The strong Western response to a threatened death sentence for an Afghan convert to Christianity looks something like a mirror image of the Muslim reaction to the Prophet Mohammad caricatures printed in the European press.
There have been no riots or sackings of Afghan embassies, unlike the violence that marked the uproar in Muslim countries after the Danish cartoons were published, but the shock and mutual incomprehension expressed in both cases are similar.
So for Reuters the life of someone is just the same as the printing of 12 cartoons in which appear someone that died 1.400, and that, even if he believed he was a Profet, HE WAS A MAN, like all the others. Do you mean that I hace to understand some people who does not get revolted when they say all these nosenses?
Well looks like the writer is today less asleep than yesterday. He now says that "the cases are clearly different". Well, now I am calmer.
No, not the least, really.