A New South Wales Supreme Court judge has rejected a claim by a Sydney gang-rapist that his strict Pakistani upbringing meant he did not know his actions were wrong.
Justice Peter Hidden has today sentenced two Sydney brothers, who can only be known as MSK and MAK, for a range of sexual assaults against two teenage girls at the brothers’ home in Ashfield in 2002.
The brothers are already serving lengthy sentences for the gang-rape of two other teenage girls and MSK will now serve up to 28 years in jail, and MAK will serve up to 19 years.
MSK claimed his family’s strict moral and cultural upbringing in Pakistan explained his offences, which has angered one of his victims, Tegan Wagner.
“This wasn’t about culture, this is about abuse against women and the fact that they had the nerve to bring in culture to begin with just astounds me,” she said.
HT: All Things Beautiful.
Just in case someone does not agree with the “Muslim” in the title you can read these posts:
- Muslim gang rapes in general and in Australia.
- Western Muslims’ racist rape spree. (translated to Spanish here).
The racist reason is given by the rapists themselves. The problem is that nothing is being done to prevent others doing the same. In the case of these rapers:
Sister Toldjah has several posts on the subject. but one of them is extraordinary:
A violent gang rapist should have been given a lesser sentence
partly because he was a “cultural time bomb” whose attacks were inevitable, as he had emigrated from a country with traditional views of women, his barrister has argued. MSK, who, with his three Pakistani brothers, raped several girls at their Ashfield family home over six months in 2002, was affected by “cultural conditioning … in the context of intoxification”, Stephen Odgers, SC, told the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal yesterday.
Kinshasha on the Potomac has the victim’s response to the eldest brother…
when he mouthed “I’m sorry”. According to the SMH;
Ms Wagner laughed and gave him the finger. When the court adjourned, she stood up, faced him and said: “F— you! Go to hell, mate.”
“I’ve been waiting four years to do that,” she said. Now 18, Ms Wagner then
took the extraordinary step of allowing her identity to be made public. Outside court, she said: “I’d like to say, have fun in prison, boys. I won.”
And Jeff continues saying:
While the use of the “Islamic” defense for gang rape is obviously ludicrous (Islam does not sanction rape), modern Islam, particularly how it is practiced and integrated into tribal societies, is brutal and does not hold women in high esteem (at least from my decadent, morally bankrupt, Western Crusader point-of-view). Women who have sex (as well as men) outside of marriage are to be whipped 100 times (from “The Light” 24.2), while adulteresses get stoned (Sunnah, Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 413).
The terrible reality is that MSK is right (in Spanish, I translate only a part of it):
In some parts of Pakistan, the sexual assault -rape included- is officially authorised as a legitime way to implement the system of social values.
The Council of a little village ordered reciently that 5 teenagers should be “kidanpped, raped or murdered” because their negative to be treated as material things.
Their ages were between 6 and 13 when they were married against their will to pay a family debt, There is also the case of Mukhtar Mai: when it was presumed that her brother, aged 12, had comitted an offense in a little agricultural village, the council ordered his sister should be group-raped. So, she was carried to a hut where she was raped by four men repeatedly.
According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, there were 804 cases of these type of rapes officially orchestrated in 2000 and 434 of them were group-rapes. But the worst thing is that the victims of these atrocities chould commit suicide, because the victims of rape are an irreparable damage to their families.
So when MSK committed the rapes he was only perpetuating his own cultural inheritance. He is proud of a society in which the sexual violence is officially condoned and used commonly as a tool to subdue the women even more.
I will search for more modern figures and write a post about them
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I’ve heard about this before. The crimes are shocking and horrible (the online Australian newspapers have more info), and so is the behaviour of those arrested during their trial(s).
The guys who did it are both racist (towards non muslim australians) and violent rapists in my opinion, and my heart goes out to the victims-and there were many. (altho ms wagner was awesome!!)
i think its sickening the way the tried to justify their actions, but u said it rite-this seems to be a part of their culture. which makes it all the more disturbing
this guy defended himself later on by saying he felt he shud be able to rape those girls bcos they were “promiscous”.
im slowly beginning to get the msg muslim men have no control over their baser actions and feelings when it comes to women. they see someone not covered up and something goes off. immediately they take it as an invitation/ cannot stop themselves from doing something sexual. this does not say a lot about their self control or mental strenth. or the culture he tried to defend himself with.
The men who commited those crimes are an embrassement to other Muslims. They should kill themselves to save the rest of us the trouble. How did the koron get so perverted? I’m learning that most “Muslim” men who call themselves muslims are nothing but sexist pigs who have grossly twisted the Koron to suite thier own double standards.
Well, knowing what goes on in prison I’m sure those boys will get plenty of sex in prison. Lupe up boys!!!!